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		<title>By: stinger</title>
		<link>http://peschronicles.co.uk/2008/04/23/stop-making-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>stinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paww - Like grg said fair play to you for sticking with the next-gen game but I just couldn't do it. It's great that you play the game a certain way and it keeps it (relatively) challenging.

The way I play however is very similar to greg in the sense that I like to build a team up over many, many seasons, often with youth players who will go on to become superstars (not just the normal names like Schwarz etc you here around all the time though) and to do that on the next-gen game will result in stupid scorelines. The line in the sand was drawn for me when I beat Newcastle 10-0 with what I thought was far from a top side and literally every shot I had that was on target ended in a goal (in fact I think i had only 8 on target shots during the game, that last goal was an own goal or a deflection</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paww - Like grg said fair play to you for sticking with the next-gen game but I just couldn&#8217;t do it. It&#8217;s great that you play the game a certain way and it keeps it (relatively) challenging.</p>
<p>The way I play however is very similar to greg in the sense that I like to build a team up over many, many seasons, often with youth players who will go on to become superstars (not just the normal names like Schwarz etc you here around all the time though) and to do that on the next-gen game will result in stupid scorelines. The line in the sand was drawn for me when I beat Newcastle 10-0 with what I thought was far from a top side and literally every shot I had that was on target ended in a goal (in fact I think i had only 8 on target shots during the game, that last goal was an own goal or a deflection</p>
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		<title>By: not-Greg</title>
		<link>http://peschronicles.co.uk/2008/04/23/stop-making-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>not-Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paww - Giggs has come alive for me recently. He's been bloody brilliant, in fact. I've started playing him regularly as a left-sided CF and the goals are flying in. I've got a cracking replay of a Giggs goal that I'll be posting in due course...

Fair play to you for persevering with the next-gen game, although as you say with the nature of the game it's far, far too easy when you assemble a squad of good players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paww - Giggs has come alive for me recently. He&#8217;s been bloody brilliant, in fact. I&#8217;ve started playing him regularly as a left-sided CF and the goals are flying in. I&#8217;ve got a cracking replay of a Giggs goal that I&#8217;ll be posting in due course&#8230;</p>
<p>Fair play to you for persevering with the next-gen game, although as you say with the nature of the game it&#8217;s far, far too easy when you assemble a squad of good players.</p>
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		<title>By: Paww</title>
		<link>http://peschronicles.co.uk/2008/04/23/stop-making-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>Paww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't feel like I'm really playing to house rules or limiting myself in this case. Other times yes I put in elaborate rules in place to keep myself from going stupid.

Now I'm playing Charlton which is my team, very much how I'm sure if you had a Championship patch you would want to try and play it with Coventry and their players instead of defaults. Its exactly what I'm doing. With signings I'm just trying to play to a bit of realism, I don't have too I just enjoy the game more.

I managed in 3 seasons with defaults on top difficulity winning (D2 League D2 Cup/D1 League D1 Cup and Euro) and that was with signing who ever I wanted (including the Classic players) and waltz to it in the 3rd season with a massive squad of players that would make Chelsea's squad look poor). It wasn't as much fun and got no statisfaction from it either. 

But now you mention it I do remember you saying about your over eagerness to get it started. So no super league this time, but with the added difficulity of it on the PS2 version sounds it wasn't a bad thing you rushed in to it after all. :p

Keep me posted on Gigg's btw, I've never signed him as a Youth before  Btw I did get Andy Cole and he was brilliant from the start for me (He was my super-sub even though he was undeveloped) he was the ultimate goal poacher!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m really playing to house rules or limiting myself in this case. Other times yes I put in elaborate rules in place to keep myself from going stupid.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m playing Charlton which is my team, very much how I&#8217;m sure if you had a Championship patch you would want to try and play it with Coventry and their players instead of defaults. Its exactly what I&#8217;m doing. With signings I&#8217;m just trying to play to a bit of realism, I don&#8217;t have too I just enjoy the game more.</p>
<p>I managed in 3 seasons with defaults on top difficulity winning (D2 League D2 Cup/D1 League D1 Cup and Euro) and that was with signing who ever I wanted (including the Classic players) and waltz to it in the 3rd season with a massive squad of players that would make Chelsea&#8217;s squad look poor). It wasn&#8217;t as much fun and got no statisfaction from it either. </p>
<p>But now you mention it I do remember you saying about your over eagerness to get it started. So no super league this time, but with the added difficulity of it on the PS2 version sounds it wasn&#8217;t a bad thing you rushed in to it after all. :p</p>
<p>Keep me posted on Gigg&#8217;s btw, I&#8217;ve never signed him as a Youth before  Btw I did get Andy Cole and he was brilliant from the start for me (He was my super-sub even though he was undeveloped) he was the ultimate goal poacher!</p>
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		<title>By: not-Greg</title>
		<link>http://peschronicles.co.uk/2008/04/23/stop-making-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>not-Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stinger - I think this is the most challenging PES, for me, since PES5, my previous favourite. Back then it took me about 12 seasons to win a Treble, and I played on for about 40 seasons in total, only winning another two or three more. 

Every now and then in this PES2008 I'll play a game where my super-squad really dominates the CPU team and I thrash them, and I'll think that I've got last-gen PES2008 sussed. But then the next game it'll be tight and tough again. I've really got that same kind of feeling I had from PES5 - that it'll always give me a good game. I'm loving it at the moment.

Paww - We're never going to agree about the next-gen version! I don't think we should have to have House Rules or deliberately limit how we play the game. If it's possible to go on a wonder dribble with Gary Neville and score the kind of goal that'd make Maradona proud---on &lt;em&gt;the hardest difficulty level&lt;/em&gt;!---then that's not a good football game IMO and no amount of self-limiting makes up for it. The pain is slowly starting to ease as I get deeper into the PS2/PSP version.

Re. the league I'm in, it's one provided by the game. Way back when the PSP version landed on my doormat (before I had the PS2 version) I set up a Master League in a rush to get started. It's a curious blend of La Liga, with a few 'strangers' such as Strasbourg and Rangers and others. I don't think there's a single blog post here where every team is listed. I'll snap a few shots of the whole league over the next day or so and post it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stinger - I think this is the most challenging PES, for me, since PES5, my previous favourite. Back then it took me about 12 seasons to win a Treble, and I played on for about 40 seasons in total, only winning another two or three more. </p>
<p>Every now and then in this PES2008 I&#8217;ll play a game where my super-squad really dominates the CPU team and I thrash them, and I&#8217;ll think that I&#8217;ve got last-gen PES2008 sussed. But then the next game it&#8217;ll be tight and tough again. I&#8217;ve really got that same kind of feeling I had from PES5 - that it&#8217;ll always give me a good game. I&#8217;m loving it at the moment.</p>
<p>Paww - We&#8217;re never going to agree about the next-gen version! I don&#8217;t think we should have to have House Rules or deliberately limit how we play the game. If it&#8217;s possible to go on a wonder dribble with Gary Neville and score the kind of goal that&#8217;d make Maradona proud&#8212;on <em>the hardest difficulty level</em>!&#8212;then that&#8217;s not a good football game IMO and no amount of self-limiting makes up for it. The pain is slowly starting to ease as I get deeper into the PS2/PSP version.</p>
<p>Re. the league I&#8217;m in, it&#8217;s one provided by the game. Way back when the PSP version landed on my doormat (before I had the PS2 version) I set up a Master League in a rush to get started. It&#8217;s a curious blend of La Liga, with a few &#8217;strangers&#8217; such as Strasbourg and Rangers and others. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a single blog post here where every team is listed. I&#8217;ll snap a few shots of the whole league over the next day or so and post it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Paww</title>
		<link>http://peschronicles.co.uk/2008/04/23/stop-making-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>Paww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boo stinger leave 'next-gen' alone! The right tweaks its a good game.

I like to keep a sense of reality about my teams as well so no big chopping and changing with the right team (a below average one) the game is a challenge. 

I've never failed to qualify before to playin the WEFA Masters so had no real idea what its like. Hopefully for your stress levels its not quite as 'aggressive'. 

Sochaux are a french team, thats all I know really. They're probably a mid-table french team mate, which means in real life they're crap. Not to piss on your team though! 

Its a strange league you've got going there, is there a post where I can find whos in the whole league?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo stinger leave &#8216;next-gen&#8217; alone! The right tweaks its a good game.</p>
<p>I like to keep a sense of reality about my teams as well so no big chopping and changing with the right team (a below average one) the game is a challenge. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never failed to qualify before to playin the WEFA Masters so had no real idea what its like. Hopefully for your stress levels its not quite as &#8216;aggressive&#8217;. </p>
<p>Sochaux are a french team, thats all I know really. They&#8217;re probably a mid-table french team mate, which means in real life they&#8217;re crap. Not to piss on your team though! </p>
<p>Its a strange league you&#8217;ve got going there, is there a post where I can find whos in the whole league?</p>
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