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Murphy’s law

Posted on February 07, 2008 by Greg Downs

I received another bye in the D2 Cup—a great relief, as I want to get off to a good start this season. I don’t need a two-legged Cup tie getting in the way and tiring my players, thank you very much.

In my third game I played one of last season’s relegated teams, Paris St Germain. I was wary. This team has always been a tough one to crack, and now was no exception. I went 0-1 down early on—a familiar story—but pulled it back to win 2-1. Caracciolo got both of my goals, my first ‘proper’ goals in the league this season.

Next up were Sunderland, a team that I’m determined not to regard as my bogey team. Nevertheless, Sunderland always do everything possible to demonstrate that they are my bogey team. One of the many things I have not ever mentioned in this blog is that Daryl Murphy, the famous Sunderland striker, always plays against me like some kind of Super-Pele.

After I went into the lead and was cruising, I started to get worried about not scoring another goal. My PES spider sense was tingling. Anytime now, I thought, Daryl’s gonna pop up again…

And he did. But this abomination should never have been a goal. (Curse you Seabass…)

The clip shows Daryl Murphy clean through on goal. I charge my keeper out and, I think, get there in time to smother Murphy’s shot. But no—the ball passes straight through my keeper’s groin. Then, just to make me feel even worse, the ball rolls into the net after at first clearly heading wide. Apparently my keeper’s phased groin at least had enough material substance to impart a touch of spin to the ball. Ridiculous.

Collision detection in PES has always been ropey. But PES2008 boasts, among its many little faults, the franchise’s worst-ever collision detection. At least if it was consistent and worked both ways it might be more acceptable.

Take a look at this referee:

The ref is standing there, staring the other way. I’m trying to run Leonardo out wide and think I’ve got plenty of room to do so. Then the referee abruptly turns and runs through Leonardo. A second later, Leonardo stumbles sideways as if he’d been shoulder-charged by a linebacker. Leaving the ball in open space, ready for the CPU to come in and collect…

After all of these shenanigans I took on PSV, another relegated team, and lost 0-3. The game was rigged, I swear it! Okay, to tell the truth I simply played badly, with anger and impatience—which you just cannot get away with in PES.

I decided to leave things there for this session and go to cool down. At least I didn’t have anyone sent off today.

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  1. bostongoals says:

    yeah it was a cheap goal but you cant say you havent scored a few of them…

    yeah i agree the ref thing is just ridiculous..

  2. LaKriss says:

    Actually I have too agree with bostongoals on both aspects, as i have had a few soft goals gone in because of the lack of collision detection.

    Also the ref thing is beyond ridiculous, shouldn’t happen and it won’t take much to fix it either. I swear down that should of come up in testing, happens almost every game with me.

    From the earlier post, i actually meant about the lone Lazio player scoring a goal for Sampdoria. If that did happen, i think PES has some issues that really need looking at.

    But why do we still play the “damn” game…

  3. cklarock says:

    What? I’m flabbergasted. Both at your keeper’s otherwise non-corporeal penis making an own goal, but the charging ref? That is truly, truly shocking.

    It kind of looks like the game was trying to move the ref out of your way, but only succeeded in moving him into it! If their scripts are that jacked up, they should have set the refs to insubstantial and just had done.

    Of course, there’s no excuse for the ghost goalkeeper, and the happy bouncing ball.

  4. Not Given says:

    I agree with every gripe you have with pes08 and it IS far too easy. It may be a step backwards but go back to 08 for the ps2. It’s a completely different game and still challenging many seasons into my ML. I will continue to play it on the ps2 until they release a completed pes game for 360 or ps3..

  5. Greg Downs says:

    bostongoals & Lakriss – At this stage of a PES year we end up accepting of the game’s faults, and I’m not too bothered about the non-collision-detection groin-goal. Like you say boston, I bet I’ve scored a few like it. I mainly posted it for its novelty value. Ditto the referee thing…

    Oh, Lakriss, thanks for pointing out that error. I’ve corrected it. With no internet access at work lately I have to write the posts in about half the time, on average, that I used to have.

    ck – yes, it was the referee’s ‘running out of the way of play’ animation, but it’s the opposite some of the time. Again it’s something that those of us still playing next-gen PES2008 have just accepted by now (or moved on to FIFA08, or ‘back’ to the so-called last-gen version.

    Not Given (is your middle name Shay, by any chance? In that case I’m Not Downs..) – I refuse to reward Seabass any more by buying the PS2 version, although I really hear good things about it and am looking forward to playing the PSP version, which is the PS2 version shrunk to fit. I know people say it’s just PES6 with a few new animations and menus, but that was said of PES4>PES5>PES6, and I found all of those games different enough and enjoyable enough and SOLID enough for me to consider them proper PES games and throughly enjoy them all for a year apiece.

    Personally I still can’t believe they went ahead and published next-gen PES2008 when they did. After two 130MB patches the offline game is as good as it’s ever going to be, and online play will probably never be fixed.

  6. cklarock says:

    @Not Given: Great handle. :)




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